Sure millions will say they can but they cant...
Or maybe they can but there to scared of the law...
about 8 out of 10 people who can "hack" wont do it cuz of the law
so i wanna know how many people actually will do the hack
either for fun, thrill, revenge, software, bets, or whatever you do it for tell us!
Yea, I will hack and I have no problem for it I wont do it although, if the person (or people) I am doing it to hasnt done something to piss me off... the RIAA and those bastards alike I will never ever have a problem fuc*ing up....
what motivates me...
Well the biggest thing that motivates me to do the hack is the thrill of the hack...
using other programs to do the hack isnt worth it to me if your not going to actually do the hack then its not worth it. Once a exploit has been used it's in my mind not considered a hack anymore. Although it technically is, in my mind I like to think otherwise...
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How Many People Are Really "brave" Enough
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Posted 05 March 2004 - 07:15 AM
[QUOTE]Once a exploit has been used it's in my mind not considered a hack anymore.
So does that mean you are writing your own exploits for windows?
I'd be surprised if you are...
If you use the word hacking to describe breaking into computer systems, then I think the only method is to use exploits (aside from brute forcing / dictionary attacks). A "hacker" in this sense is simply someone who is able to use all available exploits in an attempt to break into a system.
I dont think there are very many ppl in the world, who will look at a system, discover what services it is running, and then devise their own exploits if no public ones exist.
As for hacking the RIAA, that sounds a good way to get yourself in serious trouble.
Maybe it's just me...but you are sounding like you spend way to much time in #subseven with the kids.
So does that mean you are writing your own exploits for windows?
I'd be surprised if you are...
If you use the word hacking to describe breaking into computer systems, then I think the only method is to use exploits (aside from brute forcing / dictionary attacks). A "hacker" in this sense is simply someone who is able to use all available exploits in an attempt to break into a system.
I dont think there are very many ppl in the world, who will look at a system, discover what services it is running, and then devise their own exploits if no public ones exist.
As for hacking the RIAA, that sounds a good way to get yourself in serious trouble.
Maybe it's just me...but you are sounding like you spend way to much time in #subseven with the kids.
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Posted 05 March 2004 - 07:18 AM
Actually yes i do, at first when i started i never used my own but now I do what ever what i can or ill take sections of other exploits and rewrite them.
now i never said i hacked the RIAA cuz i never did but i wouldnt have a problem with it....
now i never said i hacked the RIAA cuz i never did but i wouldnt have a problem with it....
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Posted 05 March 2004 - 08:11 AM
I do hack.. But it is a way for me to learn the systems better. If you don't know where to get in you don't where to close the hole.. Thats the way I'm looking at it 
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Posted 05 March 2004 - 08:16 AM
The truth is. The people that really hack will never tell you (especially not in a setting like this tbh).
It does happen. and also, although there are rules and laws, the law and everything like it always has l00pholes (and systems) and peeps will always exploit that.
So... I have no clue what you are thinking of achiving with this question.
It does happen. and also, although there are rules and laws, the law and everything like it always has l00pholes (and systems) and peeps will always exploit that.
So... I have no clue what you are thinking of achiving with this question.
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Posted 05 March 2004 - 08:26 AM
Anybody can and will tell you just as so you dont know who i am as i dont know who you are.. although we could find out its fine to tell of these things its just when you tell someone of something you did
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Posted 05 March 2004 - 08:34 AM
Hacking with exploits is the orginal way to hack..
If u can make ur own exploits THEN U ARE A LUCKY PROGRAMMER!!
Programmer / Hacking is something really different..
If u can make ur own exploits THEN U ARE A LUCKY PROGRAMMER!!
Programmer / Hacking is something really different..
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Posted 05 March 2004 - 08:46 AM
I'm sorry, but part of being a hacker is maintaining an aire of mystique. You are not a hacker. You are a script kiddie. There is a large difference there. Translation:
Hacker
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*Writes his own exploits, or betters others (which you say you do, but I doubt).
*Exploits systems for various reasons both good and bad.
*Knows his own limitations, and therefore will not even talk about hacking the RIAA.
*Does not draw attention to the fact that he is a hacker, he becomes recognized by others, not by himself.
*NEVER, EVER, talks about systems he's hacked, or will hack, or should hack in a public forum.
*NEVER, EVER gets caught, and if he does, knows he was outsmarted or stepped to far past his limitations.
*NEVER, EVER leaves traces.
Script-Kiddie
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*Uses others pre-canned public exploits, or claims to write their own, but realistically only changes the comments.
*Claims to have hacked, or be hacking systems that are far out of their skill zone.
*Is actually stupid enough to believe they are 733t enough to hack the RIAA.
*Twice as stupid for either not caring or not believing that they will get caught.
*Gets on public forums and talks about how 733t they are, and calls out others who would rather stay in the shadows to be able to truly do 733t things.
*Thinks that defacing websites is the coolest thing ever.
*Leaves a trail of cookie crumbs all the way back to their NIC card.
*Actually believes that no one knows who he is on a public forum, or that they couldn't find out.
Haha
BRAVE you say? Many a fool confuses bravado for stupidity, and it is always their downfall.
Hacker
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*Writes his own exploits, or betters others (which you say you do, but I doubt).
*Exploits systems for various reasons both good and bad.
*Knows his own limitations, and therefore will not even talk about hacking the RIAA.
*Does not draw attention to the fact that he is a hacker, he becomes recognized by others, not by himself.
*NEVER, EVER, talks about systems he's hacked, or will hack, or should hack in a public forum.
*NEVER, EVER gets caught, and if he does, knows he was outsmarted or stepped to far past his limitations.
*NEVER, EVER leaves traces.
Script-Kiddie
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*Uses others pre-canned public exploits, or claims to write their own, but realistically only changes the comments.
*Claims to have hacked, or be hacking systems that are far out of their skill zone.
*Is actually stupid enough to believe they are 733t enough to hack the RIAA.
*Twice as stupid for either not caring or not believing that they will get caught.
*Gets on public forums and talks about how 733t they are, and calls out others who would rather stay in the shadows to be able to truly do 733t things.
*Thinks that defacing websites is the coolest thing ever.
*Leaves a trail of cookie crumbs all the way back to their NIC card.
*Actually believes that no one knows who he is on a public forum, or that they couldn't find out.
Haha
BRAVE you say? Many a fool confuses bravado for stupidity, and it is always their downfall.
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Posted 05 March 2004 - 09:05 AM
Agree 100%
I would not call myself a "script-kiddie" nor I would not call myself a "hacker"
But IF would call myself a Security-Minded-Person, who likes to read, test, protect myself against various kind of "hacks"
But I don't like the way you should "call yourself" something!
- I know some people who goes around saying to everyone "I am a hacker!!!1" yeah, right...Like..
When people call themself a "hacker" there not. Believe me. They don't even know how to protect there own machine.
Just my opinion..
Regards,
LS
I would not call myself a "script-kiddie" nor I would not call myself a "hacker"
But IF would call myself a Security-Minded-Person, who likes to read, test, protect myself against various kind of "hacks"
But I don't like the way you should "call yourself" something!
- I know some people who goes around saying to everyone "I am a hacker!!!1" yeah, right...Like..
When people call themself a "hacker" there not. Believe me. They don't even know how to protect there own machine.
Just my opinion..
Regards,
LS
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Posted 05 March 2004 - 09:09 AM
LiquidSilver were you from TiSNetworks?
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Posted 05 March 2004 - 09:32 AM
SyN/AcK is damn rite this time, i dont consider myself a hacker since im not good enough as others... i consider myself as a newbie and i know a lot at the same time... been a hacker is not sumthing u can call urself.. u gotta earn it... sumtimes i get the uncomfortable situation of my friends asking me if im a hacker... i just tell em im not a hacker but that i know how to do sum stupid things... and they always say.. how do i hack hotmail? ... i laugh so much.. well... i was just replyin to afree with SyN/AcK
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Posted 05 March 2004 - 09:36 AM
Ill prove something if you want but the thing I want most is if LiquidSilver is From TiS
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