i agree with HexBoy, but if someone genuinely wants to learn he should really ask for help... not for binaries...
If there are kiddies that want just to hack ok...
but the result is that they lame, hacking is made for knowledge...
they just want to have fun...
so, why ignore them and don't let them have fun?
then they may stop annoying us...
why not set-up a page that infects anyone visits it, and allow kiddies send ppl there ?
we all 'll get what we want...
they will have fun and will stop anoying us...
for this reason, i think i should set-up a remote infection page with a trojan, with standard port/passwd, and post the link.... so kiddies will stop anoying...
but, i will do this only if you all agree...
if not tell me not to post...
waiting for your opinions...
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New Windows Exploit!
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Posted 25 December 2003 - 03:25 PM
there is something missing ?
where is the New Windows Exploit ?
where is the New Windows Exploit ?
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Posted 25 December 2003 - 04:02 PM
we promise to wadeva ur saying anyway the new exloit will be compiled and put into d/l sections where kiddies cannot get to
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Posted 25 December 2003 - 04:54 PM
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well reading this stuff ...
i think i'm a kiddie then..
i wanne learn that's not the problem the only thing is my computer hang it zelf if i install a programmer program like vb or vc.
that is why i aske other ppl if they can do it for me.
the things that i have compiled in the past where viruses in asm. but that's a long time ago..
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well reading this stuff ...
i think i'm a kiddie then..
i wanne learn that's not the problem the only thing is my computer hang it zelf if i install a programmer program like vb or vc.
that is why i aske other ppl if they can do it for me.
the things that i have compiled in the past where viruses in asm. but that's a long time ago..
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Posted 25 December 2003 - 07:06 PM
Oh the endless nights, digging diggin and more digging, for what reason u may ask? well knowing that you will be able to accomplish something at the end of it. Hopefully 
but you should never give up ... me for one i feel whats the fun or point in asking someone for help when all the help u need is all around if u can be half bothered that is. The so called script kiddies, hmm i hate hearing that phrase over and over again its getting pretty annoying dont u think. Anyway what do u folks care what i think or what one thinks, your all to busy fiddleing and getting high on one of your ego trips, desperatly trying to point out, hey this is me, i've had enough of so and so's, and so and so's should be slapped in the face and be that there just not upto our standards. Mate take note standards have fallen these days. the way i see it there is no standard. Anyway bla bla bla and more bla thats enough from me. I just felt the urge to type something, so if it doesn't u know!! make any sense just think hmmmm !! yeah hmmmm adios peeps
but you should never give up ... me for one i feel whats the fun or point in asking someone for help when all the help u need is all around if u can be half bothered that is. The so called script kiddies, hmm i hate hearing that phrase over and over again its getting pretty annoying dont u think. Anyway what do u folks care what i think or what one thinks, your all to busy fiddleing and getting high on one of your ego trips, desperatly trying to point out, hey this is me, i've had enough of so and so's, and so and so's should be slapped in the face and be that there just not upto our standards. Mate take note standards have fallen these days. the way i see it there is no standard. Anyway bla bla bla and more bla thats enough from me. I just felt the urge to type something, so if it doesn't u know!! make any sense just think hmmmm !! yeah hmmmm adios peeps
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Posted 25 December 2003 - 08:52 PM
i agree with you Jimy,
but as longs as the admins/mods/smods choose not to take action against those, well, i guess we have to just live with it, dont you think..
ofcourse its no good, i understand clearly, but see where i am coming from?
i think its clear enough, most peeps on this board registered within the last couple of months, and they surely arent here to learn, all they wanna do is hack stros and gain respect from their fellow FXPers...
merry xmas
Hi,
Okay, a little about my background,
I admin at two such boards(fxp), which for my own happy purposes shall remain nameless and achieved the highest status on third I was once active on as many as 12 different boards. I've been around the underground for a very long time. When I started I was a teenager.
Along the way, I've picked up bits and pieces here and there, read white papers
etc etc... I even tried to learn vb and c++ with not much luck(strings?!? math = bad) I never was great at math and don't have 8-10 hours a day dumping in to studying.
I pondered installing an old full, paid for, retail, copy of freebsd a friend gave me at one point, but figure now you could drive a truck through the security holes that are out for it.
The point? While I probably am a 'script kiddie' as you classify it, I can look at a piece of code and figure out a port, I can solve problems I run in to when browsing a remote system and I try to teach others who want to learn what i've picked up over the years when they show they want to learn.
Could I forge a packet header? probably not.
Could I break in to 60%+ of the windows xp and older systems running today?
Probably.
Can I spoof my ip? Maybe, I'd prolly have to do some reading.
Can I develop my own exploits? This one is a big one, yeah I can probably muck with a program until I find a buffer overflow or something but as to how to write the code to leverage that to my advantage I'd be clueless.
My questions become this then, is there no time for those who can code to help out those who can't?
If you won't teach the skills you've learned to at least one other person, who has a genuine desire to better themselves you've forgotten your roots(pun intended).
I really dislike the term script kiddie, there are many with skills you DONT have who you may want to learn from some day may you find the same patience and attitude when you seek them out.
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Posted 26 December 2003 - 12:09 AM
GSecur you do run a fine site here and im glad your not to tough on the kiddies. That kind of attitude is far worst than just tolerating them No knowledge at all gets shared when a no tolerance attitude develops. While its true we all had to learn sometime, and asking for binaries is and always has been ‘not tolerated’ and could lead to getting laughed right off the internet. Or worse. And even though I have to bite my tongue sometimes to keep from screaming “don’t you think you should learn how your F#$%en computer works first!”, I still prefer it this way. Thanks!
#24 Guest_Hexboy_*
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Posted 26 December 2003 - 12:38 AM
Okay, look. I didn't mean to start the hogfest I did, hehe. I know my very general description classifys many of you willing to learn, able programmers / security ITs as kiddies. In fact, this was just absurd ignorance. Sorry about that, you know you're better than this. It seems I'm always the one who starts the bitches, but turns out many agree. My goal of the post was not to start a war nor end one. Gsecur, I've been around here for a fair while, and I agree, you do a damn good job at preventing this place from getting realy lame. In fact, you've done one of the best jobs Ive seen (no joke.)
"Script kiddies" End up everywhere. Such is life. It just seemed that the numbers where starting to grow abit, thats all. Being the bastard I am, I made a harsh post hinting at such. Glad that there is flexibility in the administration here. Perhaps my tolerance is weakening with age! While it may not seem like it, I don't want this to become a elitist-hardass-only area, as mentioned, everyone has to start somewhere. But one must yearn to learn him/herself.
To answer your guys questions about helping a basicly non-coder out with things, I totally agree, I myself didn't learn out of the blue. Once again, I didn't mean to target those sort of things. Helping someone compile stuff is usualy a good thing, because then they can expand from there, on there own. Expand!
To sum it up, sorry - I worded this entirely wrong and far too general. But I'll stick to the word of hating people who just want want want and won't learn learn learn howto themselfs. I'll refrain from using the now mediocre term 'script kiddie' and refer to people I have problems with more directly, rather than utilizing a very general and abused term. hacking is learning is exploring is improving.
Don't expect me to post something so ignorant again. Personal sorry, and happy holidays.
-Dexter aka "hexboy"
"Script kiddies" End up everywhere. Such is life. It just seemed that the numbers where starting to grow abit, thats all. Being the bastard I am, I made a harsh post hinting at such. Glad that there is flexibility in the administration here. Perhaps my tolerance is weakening with age! While it may not seem like it, I don't want this to become a elitist-hardass-only area, as mentioned, everyone has to start somewhere. But one must yearn to learn him/herself.
To answer your guys questions about helping a basicly non-coder out with things, I totally agree, I myself didn't learn out of the blue. Once again, I didn't mean to target those sort of things. Helping someone compile stuff is usualy a good thing, because then they can expand from there, on there own. Expand!
To sum it up, sorry - I worded this entirely wrong and far too general. But I'll stick to the word of hating people who just want want want and won't learn learn learn howto themselfs. I'll refrain from using the now mediocre term 'script kiddie' and refer to people I have problems with more directly, rather than utilizing a very general and abused term. hacking is learning is exploring is improving.
Don't expect me to post something so ignorant again. Personal sorry, and happy holidays.
-Dexter aka "hexboy"
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Posted 26 December 2003 - 02:54 AM
To sum it up, sorry - I worded this entirely wrong and far too general.
nice post, mature answer, respect gained..
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Posted 26 December 2003 - 03:28 AM
so wheres this new exploit? and can I have the binary ver?? ``
peace
``peace
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Posted 26 December 2003 - 05:22 AM
Tolf , how about I upload some porn and we call it even?
edit: s/porn/programming manuals
edit: s/porn/programming manuals
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Posted 26 December 2003 - 05:35 AM
nothing like cleaning the pipes before a good hack....Tolf , how about I upload some porn and we call it even?
edit: s/porn/programming manuals
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Posted 26 December 2003 - 05:37 AM
Haha, sure. Mad fast reply, that was what, one min. heh
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Posted 26 December 2003 - 07:33 AM
Well there you have it folks....and i have to give congrats to the admins and mods for their efforts here. They keep a very clean board. The odd one that sneaks through can be lived with.
This board has nothing compared to most out there with all the script kiddies sitting their boards. So the odd post asking to have something compiled we should just ignore as if the post wasn't even there. Ecentually the kiddies will learn and provide some good feedback to the board or just leave all together.
This board has nothing compared to most out there with all the script kiddies sitting their boards. So the odd post asking to have something compiled we should just ignore as if the post wasn't even there. Ecentually the kiddies will learn and provide some good feedback to the board or just leave all together.
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