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#1 Thackers357

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 06:31 PM

I have been doing extensive reading and research, from learning about tcpes to writing scripts and i have yet built up the courage to put any of it to use for the first time. with that being said my question is is there a way to hide or scramble my ip addresss? i ve skimmed thro the newbies thread and a few others i read about network securitys but no ways to scramble your address

#2 kingvandal

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 03:32 PM

100% anonymity on the internet is a myth. If you want to hide yourself I suppose you could look around for open wireless networks and park on the street and use the net that way, bounce from proxy to proxy etc.. What are you trying to hide your address from (serious question there are different methods based on situations)?.
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Posted 14 May 2012 - 11:33 AM

A lot of computer security principles and techniques can be experimented from within your own network (that's what I would recommend) - plus, your results can be more consistent, and it's easier to actually learn when you're not concerned about getting caught, since you can be more "noisy" initially to learn the concepts, and fine-tune your approach once you've learned the basics. Besides, for the most part, no one can really arrest you for hacking your own gear. Once you cross that line, though, you're fair game.

But to answer your question, like kingvandel said, it really depends on who you're trying to conceal yourself from. A friend? Coworker? Sysadmin? School? Government? You wouldn't spend $10,000 on a safe to protect $100 worth of jewelry. Thus your approach should change depending on what you perceive your environment to be.

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#4 Thackers357

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Posted 17 May 2012 - 09:17 AM

@ kingvandel, like i mentioned b4 i am extremly new to the hacker/programming community, and different lit ive researched and read all say the sa.comsthing,"someone cuould be tracking you and, you could get in trouble for getting in to the wrong info"! Maybe im a little paraniod but better safe than sorry?

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Posted 17 May 2012 - 09:25 AM

@ Juno, thats great advice,lol, but I dont know who im tring to conceal myself from yet, lol but i understand now that there are different methods depending upon the situation, I guess i have alot more hw to do, appreciate the advice:-)

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Posted 17 June 2012 - 10:42 PM

100% anonymity on the internet is a myth. If you want to hide yourself I suppose you could look around for open wireless networks and park on the street and use the net that way, bounce from proxy to proxy etc.. What are you trying to hide your address from (serious question there are different methods based on situations)?.


Feeling a bit nervous about dumping on a month old post, but for future readers it might be nice. I wanted to add that coffee shops, book stores, community colleges, libraries, and any other hot-spot with open WiFi networks are free game also. I'd just watch out for cameras (and eye witnesses), - I use a cheap booster for my WiFi card (USB - works very well if it's compatible with your drivers for whatever app). And be careful parking outside of houses, 'cause even my front-porch camera and backyard cameras extend all the way to the sidewalk across (city limitations or else I'd be recording the neighbors houses too).

Have a laptop just for pentesting; absolutely no hard-drives or other storage devices should exist in this machine and you should not ever use it for anything else. Boot a non-persistent environment from USB (or a dedicated, never before used hard-drive if you want), and you can still park outside of a coffee shop and hopefully you have dark tints and it's daytime...

Step 1: obtain a never before used laptop (at least by you, loved ones, or persons who you can be tracked through)
- just buy a new one and don't use it for anything else
Step 2: take all storage devices out
Step 3: get a USB WiFi card and a booster (or you can get them in one package too)
- make sure the make and model you're getting is compatible with the drivers you're going to use in your environment
- you can find drivers or search compatibility of your current drivers on search engines, don't ask on here
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Step 4: install a non-persistent environment on a USB stick
- make sure it's not persistent, whatever the platform is
- hopefully it'll run on your machine without problems, and if so, then hooray
- you can find out how to make a bootable USB from search engines, don't ask on here
Step 5: don't use your dedicated machine for anything else (exemplum gratia: e-mail, Facebook, Amazon, so personal-use, and never on your own ISP, et cetera)
Step 6: don't use your WiFi card on any other machine

Think sterile hardware.

This was just for informational purposes. If you were to pentest for a firm, IT Security teams can get pretty smart; it'd be embarrassing to horribly lose against them. You don't want to enable a game of capture the flag.

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 10:14 PM

Due to the very design of the internet, it's not possible to be 100% undetected. Every packet has a source and destination address, if someone wanted to trace it back to you, all they will need to know is the source address, but to make it difficult and as Kingvandal suggested, look for open WIFI connections, use VPN services to tunnel your traffic through, and if you can use several of them to make it even more difficult.

When connected to a WIFI, changed your MAC address and use a live CD, not to leave traces behind. Don't always use the same wireless AP, if you can keep on the move, this will reduce the chances of somone using triagulation techniques to detect your actual physical location.





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