16 replies to this topic

[illwill]

remember when gmail and other such places would offer services to friends only
many suggest that since we offer membership here once and a while that brings good and bad people here i suggest we make one section invite only.. like basically it would start with GSecur inviting only he people knows and trusts like kennyl and tibbar etc , then move down the line from there with each person in the group voting on how well they know the person and skillset etc... that way there can be a section where some of us can release tools for everyone to test before the AV people etc trolling the forums dont get signatures out before we get chances to test stuff and we dont have 2000 kiddies asking how to use the tool or 'how2compilethnx' posts.. any suggestions?

[JaG]

Thats a good idea, ive seen this done on other forums. It works great or it kills the forum. All the good material that attracts users to forum is kept private so people tend to lose interest.

[Chris]

This forum seems to work well.

[Reaper527]

Thats a good idea, ive seen this done on other forums. It works great or it kills the forum. All the good material that attracts users to forum is kept private so people tend to lose interest.

thats my worry about it. i have seen in the past that usually when an invite only section is added, it gets the best people from the board (a good thing) and then they start posting exclusively in that section and the other section of the board dies (a bad thing)

[Kenny]

well seeing it has been mentioned by illwill ..let me just say this..

We do have a couple of private area's for a selected few... were we can talk amongst ourselves and share views ... and there is also a private area for private exploits and programs and a private wargames server...has been for a long time infact a couple of years some sections

How we select members for them areas is via Mods and Admins recommending members ..we then review there previous posts , conduct and attitude ...if they been given a vote of confidence.. we approach them

Any member who asks for access to this area.. via PM or email or chat will never be admitted to them sections... these sections are pure Admin team recommendations only... thats the way we like to keep it

however... there is room for thought , and perhaps we could create a section for members who might one day be selected for our other sections...a sort of stepping stone..for members who want to keep there work private to a select few

we shall see

[JaG]

well seeing it has been mentioned by illwill ..let me just say this..

We do have a couple of private area's for a selected few... were we can talk amongst ourselves and share views ... and there is also a private area for private exploits and programs...has been for a long time infact a couple of years some sections

How we select members for them areas is via Mods and Admins recommending members ..we then review there previous posts , conduct and attitude ...if they been given a vote of confidence.. we approach them

Any member who asks for access to this area.. via PM or email or chat will never be admitted to them sections... these sections are pure Admin team recommendations only... thats the way we like to keep it

however... there is room for thought , and perhaps we could create a section for members who might one day be selected for our other sections...a sort of stepping stone..for members who want to keep there work private to a select few

we shall see

The pyramid approach you got in mind can work. Start off at the bottom and slowly prove/work your way up. It will help smoothen out the process and ensure quality.

[Kenny]

yes we are well aware of the situation... thing is were not a hacking Group and we do cater for all circles black, white and grey

we class our selves as a sort of resources forum... how you use the information found in here is up to you...

its entirely up to the individual if he wants to make public his code , program or exploit etc

[Tyler]

Personally I love the way GSO forums have worked. Making it challenging to get to member but if one posts quality posts and researches thigns to find and answer peoples questoins they will get full member from trial member... specialists are the ones that deserve to be where they are, they worked hard and have a large grasp and/or are very smart in thier own departments and so technically it is already a pyramid system. I would say if some people come on the public irc chan, and they post and help where they can etc and earn their way to join then so be it. Thats how i ended up joining the board in sept 03 i think it was with the nickname xinsanityx but yeah , i think if gso changes anything they have going for them it woudlnt be as much of a success of a board. hints the whole reason they closed registration again (all the skiddies and people asking the stupidest questoins)

[boshcash]

about illwill's suggestion , i think the advanced section is enough to make sure its not detected by AV companies , unless someone working for an AV company has already become a specialist or something more , also i think that the stuff get detected in the beginning from people using online virus scanners , these online virus scanners get ur stuff to all AV companies then ur l33t und3t3ct3d tool becomes a piece of shit ,, im not sure also if u click do not distribute at virustotal online AV check site , would it really make them not distribute the file ?? maybe they become more intrested in the file when u click it

[Tyler]

haha the people on the board that work for av companies have no computer skills (based on my knowledge of any tech support given by ANY of the well known av companies) so yeah, specialists stuff will stay undetected

naw... im just kidding, i agree on boshcash, the lamest people manage to get some amazing coded virus' and since they dotn know how to use them they get them detected like that.. etc

[bonarez]

but some of members are seems to be working for AV-companies.

I don't mind that at all, full disclosure is full disclosure.. but then again, I ain't no coder (yet) so I don't have to care about it.

still if you only publish source and like suggested before keep certain things out, only post older versions etc it shouldn't be difficult to keep things undetected. some code published here have gone a long time before being detected.

[tibbar]

well if there are AV employees here, they are very slow. We are at 3months + for codecrypter released here, and still the big 3 do not detect it.

[SyS49152]

however... there is room for thought , and perhaps we could create a section for members who might one day be selected for our other sections...a sort of stepping stone..for members who want to keep there work private to a select few

we shall see

it seems a good idea to me ..

[CloudyOne]

but some of members are seems to be working for AV-companies.

I don't mind that at all, full disclosure is full disclosure.. but then again, I ain't no coder (yet) so I don't have to care about it.

still if you only publish source and like suggested before keep certain things out, only post older versions etc it shouldn't be difficult to keep things undetected. some code published here have gone a long time before being detected.

Was just about to mention only posting older versions. Anybody who shares their source code should be well aware that they stand a greater risk of getting their creations picked up by an AV. However, isn't that part of the fun? The challange of keeping your game ontop that of the AV companies?

I realize some people 'do this' for fun, the challange, while others do it for the soul purpose of learning. Then there are those who don't know what they're doing, the script kiddies, who hit-and-miss trying the different source codes and programs that are posted hoping for the one they finally understand enough to use against that kid who kicked their a$$ in that one UT game they played 3 months ago. I'm one of those who like to learn, and i find it entertaining seeing how long it takes for AV's to pick-up on mine, as well as other's creations.