[beardednose]

I just heard about folks who are bleaching $5 bills and reprinting $100 bills on them. They fool the marker pens cuz the paper is "real". However, the watermark is still Abe Lincoln, but who looks at those. And also the thread embedded in the paper is different in different bills.

Evidently this is an old trick, but I've never heard of it. There's some of this circulating in the midwestern US.

Has anyone out there every tried making some money just to see how good they could get it?

[genxweb]

beardednose, on Jul 29 2005, 03:19 PM, said:

I just heard about folks who are bleaching $5 bills and reprinting $100 bills on them. They fool the marker pens cuz the paper is "real". However, the watermark is still Abe Lincoln, but who looks at those. And also the thread embedded in the paper is different in different bills.

Evidently this is an old trick, but I've never heard of it. There's some of this circulating in the midwestern US.

Has anyone out there every tried making some money just to see how good they could get it?
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

If you decide to try this make sure your printer has not been nutered by the company that makes for about 10 years now certain printer companies been removing the ability to print the correct colors of money. As well as you all know adobe and a few other graphics programs has added the anti fraud code to their products to stop making money.

Not saying it is impossible but it has gotten harder.

[Jim]

Actually, I believe the marker pens cause a chemical reaction with the type of ink used, not the paper. The "paper" is actually just a cotton blend, nothing too advanced.

[Ahmeket]

And scanners aren't able to scan bills. You gets to a homepage about counterfeiting money instead.

[beardednose]

According to news reports, it's the paper. It is special.

See this...
hxxp://money.howstuffworks.com/counterfeit4.htm

How Counterfeiting Works
by Marshall Brain

The Paper Makes a Difference
People know what money feels like. People who handle money constantly, like bank tellers, cashiers and waitstaff, can feel a counterfeit bill instantly if the paper is wrong.

That "feel of money" comes from at least three different things that make the paper in paper bills unique:

* Normal paper that you use on a day-to-day basis (newspaper, notebook paper, paper in books, etc.) is made from the cellulose found in trees. Paper used for money, on the other hand, is made from cotton and linen fibers. This kind of paper is known as rag paper.

One big advantage of using rag paper is the fact that it does not disintegrate if you accidentally run paper money through a washing machine.

* The paper used for money is thin compared to normal paper.

* The paper used for money is squeezed with thousands of pounds of pressure during the printing process. This makes it even thinner and gives newly-made bills a special crispness.

The other special thing about the rag paper used in real money is that there are tiny blue and red fibers mixed into the paper when it is made. These fibers are easy to find in real money, but they are so fine that they do not reproduce very well in the counterfeit money from your inkjet printer.

The last thing a counterfeiter wants to do is print counterfeit money on "normal" printer paper. It will feel all wrong, and it can be detected with a counterfeit pen. These special pens, which often look something like a highlighter, contain iodine that changes color when it comes in contact with cellulose. At the very least, you need to try to find thin rag paper to print on. You can find this kind of paper at most office supply stores.

However, the paper still may not feel right. That's why some counterfeiters go the extra mile to get the perfect paper...

see the link for more

[Nick W]

Interesting idea, I could try bleaching a five dollar bill sometime tonight and see if it really bleaches or not. I can't imagine trying to print a twenty out on the paper though, you'd almost certainly have to recompress the bill before it'd work.

[mrfloppy]

what about that super dollar U.S. 100 bills notes made by North Korean :D,
id only heard about this from last year when bbc did documenty about it
goes to show notthing is Anti-copy proof :ph34r: :lol:

[belgther]

I once heard that some guys were making something similar, but with a different currency. They were putting the bills in a solution removing the ink on the money, and print the new bills with the help of photoshop.
It's illegal and unethical. They just believe that money does everything and rules in all aspects. But anyone who believes that money does everything is the one that does everything for money.

[Jim]

Well I'll be, that's interesting. I've never heard of bleaching money, but people do a similar thing called "washing" checks. They steal checks from open mail boxes, and put them in a pan of what I *think* is an amonia based solution. This dilutes the ink used to address the check and eventually removes all traces of it. It's then dried, and the thief writes a new check to himself. This is extremely risky of course.

[beardednose]

Someone will soon post that this is, in reality, a conspiracy by Clorox to increase the sale of bleach. :lol:

[Chris]

This is just a conspiracy by Clorox to increase the sale of bleach.

[beardednose]

THANKS.

I knew this would happen soon. :lol:

Chris, you made my day! Does this make me a prophet? Probably not after my recent channeling.

[plop1]

chris105, on Jul 31 2005, 12:55 AM, said:

This is just a conspiracy by Clorox to increase the sale of bleach.

:lol: :lol:

Too much effort to do this in my opinion.....and I don't think the success rate is very high either.....

[nolimit]

Dude, at the risk of getting whacked for a thanks post, great article. Although this board is mostly computer security, I'm interested in all facets, and really enjoyed reading about this. I had never heard of it.

BN says:
No risk here as you followed the first rule of THANKS POSTING, which is: explain WHY you liked it: cuz you're "interested in all facets" and "never heard of it."

[Warlord_David]

sooooooooooooooooooooo....oooo..ooo... lol

has anyone bleached it yet? I would try it, but im poor and ain't giving up $5 :P