[Warlord_David]

Warez will live forever...Government's can't stop it indefinately. Their just wasting money that could be used on the poor or on people that have no homes.

[tomas\]

aelphaeis_mangarae, on Jul 3 2005, 05:26 PM, said:

I can't believe they did such a massive bust...I remember Operation Fast Track was big, they took down DEViANCE, CLASS and lots of other big groups...but this is even bigger....

I noticed that MYTH recently have been very careful, I guess they kinda knew they were going to be busted.....the warez scene really has taken a hard blow.....really hard....

I would love to learn how the FBI manages to get into these groups and bust them.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Very simple really, the FBI has the resources (most importantly, the money) to infiltrate into the warez scene easily, and thats what they did. By buying servers to provide the groups with sites to store their releases on they infiltrated to the inner part of the scene. From there on it was probably only a matter of logging ips, gathering more information etc. which eventually lead to the busts.
Cause of the anonymously of the internet, and especially IRC you cant really know if one is a federal agent or not.. which is why the fbi was able to take out/damage several big groups last week.

[beardednose]

I would be surprised if the FBI isn't a member of this board.....

(no it ain't me)

[Warlord_David]

"The One who smelled it, Dealt it" (Looks at beardednose...)

I wouldn't be surprised either, its a great security forum to discuss the latest exploits and viruses... very educational!

[TedOb1]

If your �in the know� you can always get what you need Warez scene� What a dumb ass concept. Kids collecting as much stuff as they can, most of which they will never use.

It�s those that are in it for the money that got the government involved for the RIAA� like kazaa. Taking out full page ads and putting posters on the sides of busses with pictures of grand ma and grand pa Lame downloading their favorite music �for free�. Then you have your big warez sites that are trying to generate as much traffic as possible. not because they posses some altruistic ideal but because they want to make a bundle in advertising.

IMHO if you have to use a specially made GUI or someone has to point you to a web site to get what you want you don�t deserve it.

[buzzons]

It got hurt once again today with a rar file containing over 100 sites BNC's Names, Racers, and affils being posted and spread over servers. It has caused many sites to either close down completly, to purge user databases, or to go down for the time being. This month is not a good month to be in if you own or race in the warez scene

[guinn3ss]

maybe some lobbies have pay for this action or maybe warez become too public ...
The fact is FBI didn't take the right way

[FooTE]

this is a big blow to the warez scene but i believe what ever happenes, other groups are going to step forward and fill the gaps the (temporarily) disbanded groups have left. :D

however should the warez groups take note...there has to be some cominality between all of them in order for that many groups to be taken down and so new security procedures and ways of tightening up security and privecy should be though of otherwise this will keep on repeating itself like a infinite loop which wont go away!!! :(

[widowmaker2]

its nature to evolve, if a system gets caught,a mutation comes up.
warez will always be,but maybe more in a different form.

My gues :)

[nolimit]

aelphaeis_mangarae, on Jul 3 2005, 05:26 PM, said:

I noticed that MYTH recently have been very careful, I guess they kinda knew they were going to be busted.....the warez scene really has taken a hard blow.....really hard....

MYTH/HOODLUM was always insecure, holding a "private" ircnet with hundreds of idlers on it. someone released a game a while ago who had infilitrated the network and completely owned MYTH. They're a bunch of kids and like 3 skilled members.

The only way warez will be secure is if people stop affiling sites, which is hard because most groups do this for the warez anyway. The scene's shit now, I'm glad I lost interest a while ago in the golden days.

Haha It's kinda simply actually even if you affil sites, If the site is gigabit then it's fed. Almost always the case. colo site may be lame, but if you don't wanna get busted then they're the way to go for USA.

[Buluemoon]

I am just very suprised it has taken them this long to do a major crackdown of release groups. Although I can think of several areas where there time would be better spent, like maybe stopping a terrorist or two. Gotta wonder how many manhours was spent on this crap. <_<

[nolimit]

They've had major warez busts since 2001.
Also, your right, you'd think the money would be better spent on terrorists.

This, However, is wrong. USA is ran by corporate america, and corporate america is hit by warez, not terrorists.

[mastra]

Government will always try to contol the electronic frontier and they will always fail. Hacket busts , Cracker busts ... whatever. They will fail. There are too many of us.

[tuttefrut]

not every person that works for the government has to catch terrorists :P
these warezbusters prolly dont even how to use a gun ..

they caught quite some releasegroups yea but it will never stop
so many individuals that put their time in this scene :s

[WaTerBoy]

Me i think the FBI don't do the right things. Why they don't do more security in the biseness to prevent some person to take the software, game etc.. and brind back to his home for sell/give to a warez-team or trying to crack-it and release it . He cannot Hide the fact that the warez is born because some person in CIE deside to provide the software FREE on internet.

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
THURSDAY, JUNE 30, 2005
WWW.USDOJ.GOV

"Operation Site Down is expected to dismantle many of these international warez syndicates and significantly disrupt the illicit operations of others."

I don't think this warez bust is a big one because many group in the list he pasted in the article has released games,movie and software since 30 june So the warez is here for stay and wathever if a group is dementled other groups take the place and do the same or better job :P