downloaded it two days ago a few hours after its been released.
Great job man!
sure is better than the previous versions...
and i liked the two demos lol...
hacking the server whos hosting cnn, yahoo, google, ebay, lycos and more,
is outstanding ;)
p.s.
nice email you sent to google's webmasters...
let me know if you got any shells :)
its things like Whoppix and its ever so creative demos that give linux users a bad name. theres no telling the countless amount of newbies who stumble upon such a thing and subsequently help to further the belief that linux/unix and its kin are nothing more than mere hacker-tools.
all they're going to achieve with their "Whitehat pentest kit" is arming swarms of wannabe's and script-kids with the latest public exploits and scripts all on one conveinent platform.
security analysts who know what they're doing already have tools better than Whoppix. they don't need it, and the masses sure as hell don't need it either.
<language> whitehats, this is why full-disclosure is bullshit. you think this stuff helps security? no, all it does is it helps dumbasses use code that theyre too stupid to even understand on systems they have no right to access.
death to whitehats.
BN says: this is ratherly "fLAMEly" - you earned some warning points. It's okay to disagree, but do it more respectfully!
What does everything you said has to do with u hating whitehats?
do u even know what a whitehat is? i think u might have confused it with script-kiddies or newbies. (with no intention to offent)
anyhow,
i dont believe whoppix's creator had any intention to encourage growth of the amount of script kiddies.
he just made a nice and usefull kit that contains exploits and usefull tools.
insteas of, as u said, getting them them selfes - which isn't a problem anyway!!
and the script-kiddies that thinks linux is nothing more than a hacker-tool.
fine... they wont achieve any thing anyway so whys the effort?
What does everything you said has to do with u hating whitehats?
do u even know what a whitehat is? i think u might have confused it with script-kiddies or newbies. (with no intention to offent)
no intention to offend? how dare you say that after asking me if i know what a whitehat is?
if you're too &%^$! to decipher my above post, allow me to break it down for you and anyone else down there at your level of intelligence:
a WhiteHat is a person who believes in security thru full disclosure. if theres a bug, publish it along with exploit details for the public. a BlackHat is someone who believes in the exact opposite - of keeping such dangerous info private.
now what my above post means, is that the Whoppix developers, being self-admitted Whitehats (go read their page, or even look at the devteams website: whitehat.co.il), are only providing a conveinent platform for lamers and scriptkids to exploit from, by providing a tool like this.
what i find even more insulting about your post, is:
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and the script-kiddies that thinks linux is nothing more than a hacker-tool.
fine... they wont achieve any thing anyway so whys the effort?
do you not understand that false rumors such as this greatly hurt Open Source? if the public is made to perceive linux/unix/etc as "hacker tools" then it takes a jab at the crediblity of these OS's, further diminshing the prospects of Linux popularity growing on the desktop.
First, please stop presenting yourself as superior by intelligence.
it makes you look ^%))(!! and i dont think anyone appreciates it.
Second,
i dont know where u got the idea that white-hats believes in full-disclosure,
and black-hats wants to keep information to their selfs.
maybe thats what been deduced from their actions... but that is not who they are.
white-hats want to protect the computer while black-hats want to hack it.
"A Whitehat generally focuses on securing IT Systems whereas a Blackhat (the opposite) would like to break into them"
(wikipedia - and i'm sure other sites would agree)
Whoppix was made for those white-hats who want to pentest their security.
thats it.
Third,
We Both know that what the script-kiddies and newbies think has no infulence on the real public of open-source.
so why bother?!
Good work muts, always nice to see what you guys put on these cds
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i hate whitehats, this is why full-disclosure is bullshit. you think this stuff helps security? no, all it does is it helps dumbasses use code that theyre too stupid to even understand on systems they have no right to access.
death to whitehats.
Now im not saying full disclosure is the best thing to have but its hard to draw up an alternative that involves informing all vendors and their customers that the software they use is vulnerable because otherwise they might have little motivation to fix it.
So an unknown and unpatched vulnerability in the hands of a blackhat could be dangerous to any company that runs the vulnerable software. If it is publically released then at least the whitehat can patch it and not have to find it out the hard way.
CereBrums your ******* is astounding. The fact you had to goto wikipedia to lookup black/white hat in and of itself is pathetic.
furthermore, i'm not TRYING to sound 'superior by intelligence' as you claim, however if thats how i came across to you then im flattered. however, it doesn't change the fact that i think you're an ***&** clod.
if you think "black hats only want to hack and do damage" then you need a slap harder than i can express in words. one believes in disclosure, the other doesnt - thats all there is to it. go read up on this subject a little more before you try and form another badly written argument against someone who knows what theyre talking about.
oh and, for the third time now (pay attention @#@@): its bad for ANYONE to have the belief that linux is a platform only meant for "hackers." people tend to spread their beliefs, if one person has this belief, they'll spread it, and so on, and so on. the result is a false, negative rumor spreading about the single greatest open source achievement of all time. it hurts.
please, go read a little and work on your english before you try and rebuttle any of this (not that theres anything to rebut anyway).
2 & Cere,
Take it easy, especially you, 2nu4u. We don't like flames and name-calling here. I edited the posts above, not because we're prudes, but we try to keep it friendly around here. I don't want others to think this is normal and emulate it. :angry:
Please, disagree all you want, but keep to the facts and your opinions without getting into disparaging each other! :blink:
I've looked at the whoppix release. What I missed in it (and maybe I just missed it) was documentation. The STD Knoppix and Security Auditor Knoppix releases that are like it both include some documentation on how to use the tools, with S Auditor being better in that area. Even so, my "hateful" hat off to you, Muts!
I'll be looking more closely at Whoppix as it seems to have more tools.
I disagree that it makes Linux/Unix seem like only hacker tools. Are we forgetting all the Unix web servers on the Net?
I think such distributions are good as they interest people in Linux that aren't Linux users. It's an easy way to try it without any commitments. And the tools tweak one's interest to learn more about the OS so you can use all the great tools (hacking and otherwise) that *nix offers.
I don't care to disclose my opinion on disclosure. :lol:
I went to wikipedia just to prove it u...
i like to check the information i have before spilling it out like some other idiots! (get the point)
BTW,
"if you're too &%^$! to decipher my above post, allow me to break it down for you and anyone else down there at your level of intelligence"
Sure your not trying to present yourself as suprior by intelligence... of course not.
you can keep cursing as much as you want.
i dont give a shit about what u think of me... no one does.
and talking about my english... just proofs how dumb u are.
its low and has nothing to do with the subject.
i have no intrest continuing this argument with u... unill you say at lease have something clever to say,
that is actually regarding the issue, and not using cursing...
i dont think its too hard right?
maybe for u it is...
oh well...
I downloaded Whoppix 2.6 and burned the image. Tried it on three different types of PC's and it hung up on all three (Compaq, Dell, Gateway), and re-downloaded to try again thinking that maybe the download got corrupted. Same results. Tried on three OS'es with the same results. Tried with NTFS formatted drive and FAT32 formatted drives. Same results. Tried Whoppix 2.5 and worked on all platforms. Noone has had this prob. (Used the Whoppix home site for downloading via a T-1 connection). :unsure:
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