Can someone point me in the right direction to a tut/guide as to how to dual boot linux and windows xp, thanks...
Also i have a Alcatel Speed Touch 330 (Little Red Thing) USB Modem will i be able to get this to work in linux...
Thanks
Full Version: Dual Booting Xp & Linux
grub.conf
lilo.conf
source: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/2005...?part=1&chap=10
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# Which listing to boot as default. 0 is the first, 1 the second etc.
default 0
# How many seconds to wait before the default listing is booted.
timeout 30
# Nice, fat splash-image to spice things up
# Comment out if you don't have a graphics card installed
splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
title=Gentoo Linux 2.6.11-r3
# Partition where the kernel image (or operating system) is located
root (hd0,0)
kernel /kernel-2.6.11-gentoo-r3 root=/dev/hda3
# The next four lines are only if you dualboot with a Windows system.
# In this case, Windows is hosted on /dev/hda6.
title=Windows XP
rootnoverify (hd0,5)
makeactive
chainloader +1
default 0
# How many seconds to wait before the default listing is booted.
timeout 30
# Nice, fat splash-image to spice things up
# Comment out if you don't have a graphics card installed
splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
title=Gentoo Linux 2.6.11-r3
# Partition where the kernel image (or operating system) is located
root (hd0,0)
kernel /kernel-2.6.11-gentoo-r3 root=/dev/hda3
# The next four lines are only if you dualboot with a Windows system.
# In this case, Windows is hosted on /dev/hda6.
title=Windows XP
rootnoverify (hd0,5)
makeactive
chainloader +1
lilo.conf
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boot=/dev/hda # Install LILO in the MBR
prompt # Give the user the chance to select another section
timeout=50 # Wait 5 (five) seconds before booting the default section
default=gentoo # When the timeout has passed, boot the "gentoo" section
# For non-genkernel users
image=/boot/kernel-2.6.11-gentoo-r3
label=gentoo # Name we give to this section
read-only # Start with a read-only root. Do not alter!
root=/dev/hda3 # Location of the root filesystem
# For genkernel users
image=/boot/kernel-2.6.11-gentoo-r3
label=gentoo
read-only
root=/dev/ram0
append="init=/linuxrc ramdisk=8192 real_root=/dev/hda3 udev"
initrd=/boot/initrd-2.6.11-gentoo-r3
# The next two lines are only if you dualboot with a Windows system.
# In this case, Windows is hosted on /dev/hda6.
other=/dev/hda6
label=windows
prompt # Give the user the chance to select another section
timeout=50 # Wait 5 (five) seconds before booting the default section
default=gentoo # When the timeout has passed, boot the "gentoo" section
# For non-genkernel users
image=/boot/kernel-2.6.11-gentoo-r3
label=gentoo # Name we give to this section
read-only # Start with a read-only root. Do not alter!
root=/dev/hda3 # Location of the root filesystem
# For genkernel users
image=/boot/kernel-2.6.11-gentoo-r3
label=gentoo
read-only
root=/dev/ram0
append="init=/linuxrc ramdisk=8192 real_root=/dev/hda3 udev"
initrd=/boot/initrd-2.6.11-gentoo-r3
# The next two lines are only if you dualboot with a Windows system.
# In this case, Windows is hosted on /dev/hda6.
other=/dev/hda6
label=windows
source: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/2005...?part=1&chap=10
and i would suggest you boot floppy or cd
because there are two issues:
- if you have multiple drives and each system on another, then disconnecting linux one will make your pc unable to boot
- also you can delete linux with ease and there will be no trash in mbr
i haven't heard if it's possibile to delete lilo or grub, you can only overwrite it
greetz
because there are two issues:
- if you have multiple drives and each system on another, then disconnecting linux one will make your pc unable to boot
- also you can delete linux with ease and there will be no trash in mbr
i haven't heard if it's possibile to delete lilo or grub, you can only overwrite it
greetz
i'd say: use vmware 
@ShadowRun: you are right, but after you delete linux, you can still recover your computer without reinstalling windows. All you have to do is to boot from XP setup CD, use recovery console, and fix boot sectors with FIXBOOT and FIXMBR. Then everything runs fine.
@BuzzDee: Vmware or Virtual PC are good alternatives, but when aiming to do something else, Vmware can be insufficient to satisfy the user with its speed and other issues. I had this when trying to play DOS games both with Vmware and Virtual PC, they were not running correctly and well, even though I had Pentium III 800 and 128 MB RAM, which is much more than enough to run the games correctly and fluently.
@BuzzDee: Vmware or Virtual PC are good alternatives, but when aiming to do something else, Vmware can be insufficient to satisfy the user with its speed and other issues. I had this when trying to play DOS games both with Vmware and Virtual PC, they were not running correctly and well, even though I had Pentium III 800 and 128 MB RAM, which is much more than enough to run the games correctly and fluently.
Install first windows. Then install linux. In the setup it wil autodetect the xp on your box and grub wil auto deal with it. Afterwards u can edit grub.conf as Kuerby said.
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had this when trying to play DOS games both with Vmware and Virtual PC, they were not running correctly and well, even though I had Pentium III 800 and 128 MB RAM, which is much more than enough to run the games correctly and fluently.
virtual installs are dependent on memery, much more so than on cpu power, so 128mb is very low.
l'd recommend using KNOPPIX which will install from CD and not on your hardrive.
The Alcatel is a pain to get running under Linux. l'm not sure about the one you have [have they included the drivers 'cos linux always seems to have a problem recognising drivers, and configuring them is a real pain?]. Best bet is to get an Ethernet Modem that doesn't need drivers.This is the secret to running linux i think.
The Alcatel is a pain to get running under Linux. l'm not sure about the one you have [have they included the drivers 'cos linux always seems to have a problem recognising drivers, and configuring them is a real pain?]. Best bet is to get an Ethernet Modem that doesn't need drivers.This is the secret to running linux i think.
if you make the mistake of doing a repair on your windows partition, you find the mbr gets messed up and your linux loaded is destroyed...
any tips on the best way to recover in this situation - i.e. how to restore the linux loader?
any tips on the best way to recover in this situation - i.e. how to restore the linux loader?
Looks like this :
when 1st installing windows 2nd linux = all ok lilo/grub automatic find another OS
but when you will install linux and then windows you can spot some problems, cause micro$oft's shit overwrites your MBR and your lilo/grub are annihilated then you need to run Ur *nix from floppy or bootCD and install proper boot loader ;} it's nice explained on dozens of webs so i'll skip it ;P there is a few other possibilites to overcome this problem but one i wrote is good and enough :}
2. hardware ;P
modems are most shitty devices to set 'em up under linux ;P but i would bet that on some BSD it would run smoothly i dont remember but afik netBSD is most compatible distro ;P
i hope i helped a bit greetz ;P
p.s
good article and i like language used in it
p.p.s
you can seek you way by mr G
when 1st installing windows 2nd linux = all ok
lilo/grub automatic find another OSbut when you will install linux and then windows you can spot some problems, cause micro$oft's shit overwrites your MBR and your lilo/grub are annihilated
then you need to run Ur *nix from floppy or bootCD and install proper boot loader ;} it's nice explained on dozens of webs so i'll skip it ;P there is a few other possibilites to overcome this problem but one i wrote is good and enough :}2. hardware ;P
modems are most shitty devices to set 'em up under linux ;P but i would bet that on some BSD it would run smoothly
i dont remember but afik netBSD is most compatible distro ;Pi hope i helped a bit
greetz ;Pp.s
CODE
http://www.xs4all.nl/~golverd/tuxpage.html
and
http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialRecoveryAndBootDisk.html
and
http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialRecoveryAndBootDisk.html
good article and i like language used in it
p.p.s
you can seek you way by mr G
QUOTE(tibbar @ May 28 2005, 06:42 AM)
if you make the mistake of doing a repair on your windows partition, you find the mbr gets messed up and your linux loaded is destroyed...
any tips on the best way to recover in this situation - i.e. how to restore the linux loader?
any tips on the best way to recover in this situation - i.e. how to restore the linux loader?
I am not a linux specialist, but the lilo command does it well, as far as I know.
QUOTE(belgther @ May 28 2005, 10:09 AM)
QUOTE(tibbar @ May 28 2005, 06:42 AM)
if you make the mistake of doing a repair on your windows partition, you find the mbr gets messed up and your linux loaded is destroyed...
any tips on the best way to recover in this situation - i.e. how to restore the linux loader?
any tips on the best way to recover in this situation - i.e. how to restore the linux loader?
I am not a linux specialist, but the lilo command does it well, as far as I know.
how will you use lilo command when the whole deal is that we are trying to recover lilo
recovering the recovered tool by this tool 
edit the bios
putting in the linux cd
then u can mostly start the os again
only have probs with linux and my raid controller
next lappy i ll setup linux again
putting in the linux cd
then u can mostly start the os again
only have probs with linux and my raid controller
next lappy i ll setup linux again
QUOTE(kuki5 @ May 28 2005, 01:45 PM)
how will you use lilo command when the whole deal is that we are trying to recover lilo
recovering the recovered tool by this tool
recovering the recovered tool by this tool By booting the distribution by a boot disk or CD.
QUOTE(belgther @ May 28 2005, 01:40 PM)
QUOTE(kuki5 @ May 28 2005, 01:45 PM)
how will you use lilo command when the whole deal is that we are trying to recover lilo
recovering the recovered tool by this tool
recovering the recovered tool by this tool By booting the distribution by a boot disk or CD.
i wrote about it in my 1st post in this thread
I managed to get SimplyMepis Dual booting alongside windows xp ive tryed getting the modem to work from the guides on the internet but they just dont explain enough for me to understand it, would be great if someone could explain it in a simple manner lol
it has been said before, getting an usb-modem working can be a bit tricky, so can't promise results. the installation of pppd is not documented on that howto so I'll take a guess: looked at mepis site, is based on debian, so you should have a working apt.. insert the install cd then execute command apt-get install pppd from a shell.
any other question about that howto?
ps: you can allways ask questions on mepis forum too www.mepis.org/forum
any other question about that howto?
ps: you can allways ask questions on mepis forum too www.mepis.org/forum
Most of the time installing linux after XP and using the bootloader that comes with linux is enough for a dual boot sys. But i have had trouble and still didn't come to a solution when installing in sata discs.
Anyone with same problem or is it just my noobish stupidity!?
Anyone with same problem or is it just my noobish stupidity!?
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only have probs with linux and my raid controller
like said, raid controllers are a pain when dealing with dualboots, and your sata is bound to be a raid controller (onboard)
personaly, I quit doing dualboots. just buy a router and a (cheap) pc for running linux and you will never look back again..
very interesting, there's also the option of using a floppy diskette to boot into a linux configuration if you prefer windows as your default and nix isn't installed on a MBR. there's also 3rd party boot loaders such as system command that will "detect" partitions which include the ext3 format.
You can install windows 1st, then use knoppix to resize the ntfs partition. Then you can repartition and have Linux on the same hard drive.
The best way is to use 2 separate hard drives. (but you can use the same swap on both)
The best way to boot is either grub via floppy, or what I like to do is use a grub bootable CD with a custom menu.lst. You don't know how many times I've used the bootable CD and went into the commandline mode.
I wrote a HOWTO about advanced boot ideas involving grub and ranish partition manager. Its HERE
The best way is to use 2 separate hard drives. (but you can use the same swap on both)
The best way to boot is either grub via floppy, or what I like to do is use a grub bootable CD with a custom menu.lst. You don't know how many times I've used the bootable CD and went into the commandline mode.
I wrote a HOWTO about advanced boot ideas involving grub and ranish partition manager. Its HERE
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