hacking contest

hacking exploits security forum
hacking
compliance articles
upgrade backup exec
information security consultant

LittleHacker
I've trouble installing Windows 2000 and Windows XP on my own computer.
I've done it many time before on my friends boxes.
Both of them have a same problem as followed:
During installing, when install devices is almost done (70%) it just hangs and screen turns black, then MousePoiner trunsback visible!. keyboard is Locked too.
This Problem is for both Windows 2000 and XP at the same progessed.
I've tested with several CD's.
My hardware meet the requirements. blink.gif
CPU: Pentum I - MMX 233MHz (Intel)
Ram: 128 MB
Hard: 20 GB
2.5 GB on C (where WinME installed)
4 GB on D (where I want to intall Win2k/XP)
VGA: 9750 3D Trident (4 MB)
Sound Cart: Yamaha
tweakz20
do you get any error message at all??
and where did you get the cds? did you test the exact same cd with other computers? was the lockup during partitioning it or installing (it can't run on the same partition as ME.. (win32))... all info you have on this would help..

btw.. win XP needs 256 at least to run (ram).. i read that in a magazine

i tried searching in microsoft and all i got was about file system problems...
here's a link to see how to run chkdsk
CODE
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us/Default.asp?url=/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/reskit/en-us/prkd_tro_xudm.asp


also, if i were you, investing in a new computer (not parts) would be in your best interest lol
daguilar01
sicne you say you have had the same problem with multiple computers, i would guess you had a bad cd, might want to look into trying a differnt
cross
QUOTE (tweakz20 @ Mar 24 2004, 05:00 PM)
btw.. win XP needs 256 at least to run (ram).. i read that in a magazine

I run XP on 128mb of ram with no trouble at all... I think 128 is the minimum. Since it is freezing while installing devices, it's probabaly a hardware problem. It doesn't like something in there. I would start by swaping out hardware one piece at a time if you can. Swap the video card, ram, etc... Are you using one disk drive partitioned into different drives, or multiple hard drives? If your using multiple drives, you may want to think about unplugging the other drives during the install...

Edit: You may also want to try a different CD-Rom, sounds wierd, i know, but it may help.
LittleHacker
first of all,There is no Error message!
2nd, I told that I've installed them successfully on ther computers! (I meant I know how to install andMy CDs are right blink.gif ) But I've trouble installing on my own machine! sad.gif
I'd even disconnected my sound cart and CD-writer and modem and try to install minimal first, but the problem exists!
Blackknight
obviously.. you have to take out all the hardware that isn't necessary for the install. because its locking when it trys to find the hardware... once installed just put the hardware back in and install the drivers,
google.. people normally have the same problems and post on message boards dry.gif
ihafarm
Sounds like a big pain in the ass. First off I'd guess it was the vga adapter. If you've got an extra one lying around give that a go. If problem persists, it could be a problem with the motherboard. Make sure that your BIOS is up to date and install any firmware updates that exist for your hard drives.
tweakz20
vga adapter..? uhh.. video card??.. and flashing your bios is very dangerous, not a very smart idea.. whatever floats your boat

about the ram, blame "smartcomputing"
daguilar01
QUOTE (tweakz20 @ Mar 24 2004, 02:54 PM)
vga adapter..? uhh.. video card??.. and flashing your bios is very dangerous, not a very smart idea.. whatever floats your boat

about the ram, blame "smartcomputing"

its not really dangerous, i think with osme computers, it can even be done with out shutting down or restarting, but even with older ones, its pretty simple, usually just copy files to a floppy, and boot to the floppy
brOmstar
sometimes this is the reason try another ram ..could be that some parts of the ram are broken
LittleHacker
My 128 MB Ram consists of 2 Rams (each 64 MB)
I've 3 of them and checked with all situations (let's name them a,b and c)

ab (128 MB)
bc (128 MB)
ac (128 MB)
a (64 MB)
b (64 MB)
c (64 MB)

But it failed sad.gif
tweakz20
not real dangerous??? i wish... but hey, i have a duel bios, why do i care
bios is the kind of memory that's not suppost to be written to, ROM (read only memory)... "flashing" it leaves it vulnerable and that's when the other data slipps in (if i remember correctly)... my friend did it and he needed a new motherboard, and he's very good on this kind of stuff.....

did you try a different harddrive? i'm still putting my bet on a bad partition...
kingvandal
What part of the install is crashing? During the actually file copying process? Or when it starts install TCP/IP or during the saving process? Or during the Saveing setting process or the Registers components etc..? I had this one hard drive that woudl never install. I ended using the manufactors disk utilities to fix it. I even tryed replacing the MBR. let me know what part of the install is crashing. I can help you ,ore then.

Rich
Krogoth
it's a hard job indeed. my first impression, change your ram stick but let's troubleshoot to isolate and minimize the problem.

1) go to the bios settings by pressing "Esc" button upon booting up. this may vary depending on mainboards. see mainboard manuals.

2) Reset the settings in the bios to default.

3) check ide cables, if possible swap with others that you think is working. check also the jumper, set it to primary master for your hardisk connection.

4) remove any PCI/EISA/SCSI cards except your video card for the installation. start the installation.

if the installation fails, proceed...

5) replace ram stick. with only video card and ram stick replaced, start installation again.

if the installation fails, proceed...

6) replace hardisk. with only video card, ram stick and hardisk replaced, start installation again.

it's a hardware problem for sure but i hope you can isolate the problem as suggested above. reinstall the OS and write the error messages. post it here so that others have some idea to sort out the problem.
ihafarm
tweakz20:

Dual bios? Ha.
Flashing your BIOS is a rather common task...hell, Dell releases BIOS updates to their consumers...do you think they'd do that if it was dangerous? BIOS updates can give your machine added functionality; ex. support for larger hard disks.

Killaloop
As some have already said it sounds like your vga card is causing the problem.
well I'm 99.9% sure about that because:
when a hardware error results while installation you will be left with a BSOD telling you what and where the error happend. this was always that way for me with a broaken mainboard, with bad ram etc.
but what you get is a black screen while windows tries to lookup what VGA card you got. You will hardly be able to install windows 2000/XP on that machine unless you are able to crap a vga card which will work with your mainboard and is supported by OS (your card isn't).
And anyways why would you want to install 2000/XP on that hardware config? XP would make no fun atall its a hardware bomb, you will sit minutes for it to boot and opening a few programs will cause your machine to slow down alot. this is due to bad memory handling winxp has. windows 2000 will be a better choice if you ever get it running, but I recommend to install win98 on your box smile.gif
I have been there with winxp running on such a box it was nearly impossible to work with it... open view programs and its over.
As said if you want to get it running try to get your hands on a supported vga card
tweakz20
the new bioses support it fine, older ones (ex, he has a PENTIUM 1 BOARD!!!) weren't really designed for that...
and even if it isn't probable that it happens to do an unsuccessful flash, it's still possible, and if it does screw up, that means you'll need a new bios... (new motherboards = replace... older = new motherboard)... i'm not giving in on saying it's safe lol

quote from "A+ First Pass"
QUOTE

Blah blah blah (about how it works)

  Manufacturers periodically post the flash upgrades on their websites for technicians to download. Be aware that you must take care in the process because the BIOS could be disabled and require the motherboard to be shipped back to the manufacturer.


How much would that cost? humm.. normally a hundred just for getting it checked out... then since it usually costs SOOO much money to get fixed, you'll probably pay around 200-300 dollars.... Wouldn't it be better to just buy a NEW motherboard with that kind of money?
dr0zaxx
anybody wants a copy of a book of hacking? this book is used for the course in my country. cost $2999. anyone interested? it's 28.6mb in PDF format. sorry to post here. cos i am still a trial members cant create topic. if admin see this, hope he can allow me to upload .
tweakz20
yeah, not a very great place to post...

if you're making us pay three thousand dollars, i bet you that you won't get any buyers... we have all the stuff we need on this forum (for FREE)
This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please click here.

 
Invision Power Board © 2001-2005 Invision Power Services, Inc.