For The Newbies

Nexcess

Mar 3 2004, 06:34 AM

I give my full permission for this to be passed out to anyone you want who it might help. The providing condition being you don't attempt to tamper with the document and claim credit for my work.
Enjoy,
-Nexy

Buluemoon

Mar 3 2004, 06:56 AM

been searching for this today, thanks Nexcess.

Max_Payne

Mar 3 2004, 05:10 PM

good job dude

cyah@kk

;)

AsuKa

Mar 3 2004, 05:25 PM

Dont mean to spam, but damn this one is for some real n00bs lol.
Good work though on taking the time to write a tutorial, I guess everyone needs some help starting off, but this is mainly for the warez kidz.

drizzlah

Mar 3 2004, 05:28 PM

thx m8 go to taake @ look at this

mrBob

Mar 3 2004, 05:56 PM

QUOTE (AsuKa @ Mar 3 2004, 05:25 PM)

..........
but this is mainly for the warez kidz.

and those are exactly who shouldn't be here....
this is a security forum where you can learn about exploits and how to protect yourself
this isn't supposed to be a place where you can download pre-compiled exploits so you can make auto-hackers for it

also not things like "here is a step-by-step guide how you can make your stuff more difficult to find out cuz it's illegal"
you don't learn anything from that

i don't mean to flame but i'm just getting really tired of al there skiddiez in here who are talking about serv-u and auto-hacking and then they think they're "into security"

d0whc3r

Mar 3 2004, 06:32 PM

thx for the file ill take a look

Divx_dude

Mar 3 2004, 06:47 PM

i already knew how to do it but nice work for taking time for our "noobs" here

Nexcess

Mar 3 2004, 06:56 PM

To those who pass it on to someone who find it usefull, or said thank you
your welcome

[Begin annoyed reply]

<snip various phrases>

Dear Bob,
Why don't you spend more time helping new people in any forum instead of giving others grief for it. If someone sat down and wrote a simply worded explanation(a good example is the sql injection tut i saw awhile back(cheers for that one btw whoever did it)) of more things related to security perhaps more people would develop a genuine intrest in learning.

Its very easy to complain, but when was the last time(and I havent looked you could be teacher of the year) you taught someone something.

[/End annoyed reply]

Love and greetz to all

TheNexy

P.S. Please note this post was allowed to sit while i did the meditation of calmness before i replied hence the snip.

mrBob

Mar 3 2004, 08:26 PM

QUOTE (Nexcess @ Mar 3 2004, 06:56 PM)

To those who pass it on to someone who find it usefull, or said thank you
your welcome

[Begin annoyed reply]

<snip various phrases>

Dear Bob,
Why don't you spend more time helping new people in any forum instead of giving others grief for it. If someone sat down and wrote a simply worded explanation(a good example is the sql injection tut i saw awhile back(cheers for that one btw whoever did it)) of more things related to security perhaps more people would develop a genuine intrest in learning.

Its very easy to complain, but when was the last time(and I havent looked you could be teacher of the year) you taught someone something.

[/End annoyed reply]

Love and greetz to all

TheNexy

P.S. Please note this post was allowed to sit while i did the meditation of calmness before i replied hence the snip.

hehe
but i'm just getting annoyed by all those noobs posting crap like custom servu's and how do i install servu etc.
just look in the trash... it's full of it
and i don't like the fact that all these skiddies who don't give a f*ck about security just come here and copy/paste some batch scripts (and don't know what they're doing) and then 'hack' comps; install serv-u and let they're auto-hackers just root another comp
i don't mean to offend you, but knowledge like this you should find out by yourself; not in a step-by-step guide or something (it's better for the understanding of how a program acts)

and don't get me wrong; i like security
but not like this

but well... i'll just stay quiet next time

i'm too lazy for more posts like this

and haha, my name is not Bob

just didn't want to use my real nick in here
don't wanna get recognized

*boooooooring*

ComSec

Mar 3 2004, 10:15 PM

sometimes its good to know how things are created ... because it also helps security admins to combat the problem or know what to look for... then again good come's with bad as in all security forums...depends on how you use the infomation provided here...

but yes the serv-u is getting a bit much because its so easy to modify

Yorn

Mar 4 2004, 05:53 AM

I gotta ditto what ComSec just said.

Basically, the thing that makes this place good is that the script kiddies DO post here. I can view these forums and know exactly what someone is trying to do, cause someone here has already tried it first. Or asked about it. That's the power of this site.

I don't mind that the people that I am trying to stop from taking over the machines where I work are posting here because by letting them post here, I know what is going on. Documents like this one teach new little hackers how to do what they do, yes, but it also gets them prepared for the point in their lives when they switch over and play on the other side of the fence.

This place is what it is BECAUSE of the warez folks and etc, not despite them.

mrBob

Mar 4 2004, 12:12 PM

QUOTE (Yorn @ Mar 4 2004, 05:53 AM)

I gotta ditto what ComSec just said.

Basically, the thing that makes this place good is that the script kiddies DO post here. I can view these forums and know exactly what someone is trying to do, cause someone here has already tried it first. Or asked about it. That's the power of this site.

I don't mind that the people that I am trying to stop from taking over the machines where I work are posting here because by letting them post here, I know what is going on. Documents like this one teach new little hackers how to do what they do, yes, but it also gets them prepared for the point in their lives when they switch over and play on the other side of the fence.

This place is what it is BECAUSE of the warez folks and etc, not despite them.

hmm, that's another point of view
kinda right though
just BECAUSE these skiddies are posting tuts warez-related the security people will know how to "defend" themselves... hmmm, haven't looked at it that way

but still, 10 serv-u threads all going about the same...

Yorn

Mar 4 2004, 04:22 PM

QUOTE

but still, 10 serv-u threads all going about the same...

Yeah, you can feel free to complain about that, it kind of bugs me too.

But Nexcess is trying to be helpful here, and he/she made this as an original work. That kind of contribution is essential to the growth of these forums. What if (and trust me, this is a huge "what if") some of the largest botnets were being created by users in these forums?

Not only would it be essential to know how they were doing it, but it'd be essential to know what kinds of files to look for on their zombies. So if they make a post about their "netcatloader.reg" file not working, then what do you set your corporate AV software to look for? Why, that file of course.

It's a game of cat and mouse. We can't rely 100% on the AV vendors to do our jobs for us. Especially when we know (from using this forum) that people are creating easy workarounds for them.