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AdmiralB
why is subseven the trojan soo popular?
its probably detectable by all av programs
Alexander01
well... all noob-kiddies are using sub7 so that's why the program is so popular
iLLuSioN
if u havent used it b4 then =/ if u have then u would notice its the prolly the best one to mess around with people ( all those op cd drive , mouse control) etc etc thats why its detected by all av imo..
Skydriver
"its probably detectable by all av programs"


you can always play with it a little that it wont be detected by av smile.gif
eXist
Still, using something so common as a backdoor wouldn't be a good idea. I'm sure even the most basic of users know what subseven is by now.
D0cSyS
trust me you won't fall for it or will see it but there's thousands of people that won't see it or know wtf it is.

Once on a public phone on the bad part of my town my friend put in 35 cents to make a phone call and after he entered the number the lady (believe it or not) said please enter your social security number and all i will say is he asked me if he should type it in.
nulladd
a problem which ive noticed some ppl have is the false sense of security they get from AV programs because they neglect to update the defitions, of course many ppl update them as well but there is still a large number of ppl who think they are protected but really arent
usanet21
ok is the best software or programs to hide the trojan when send over to someone else if he/she have a AV software?? UPX is detectable..so what??
carlssin
I have to admit that it is fun to play with. I've used it in a lab setting (a college course on Network Security), and I made sure to sit in the back row so that I could see each workstation I was attacking. Good times. wink.gif
murcia
i also played around with it with a friend's pc. his mcafee nv detected it, deleted it and then his windows didn't do anything anymore after the trojan had been deleted. wouldn't even start up anymore. had to reinstall the whole system...
MattMannLT
QUOTE (carlssin @ Feb 8 2004, 04:52 PM)
I have to admit that it is fun to play with. I've used it in a lab setting (a college course on Network Security), and I made sure to sit in the back row so that I could see each workstation I was attacking. Good times. wink.gif

i always give myself away when i do that because i camt help but laugh at the peoples reactions
OaKz
another reason why it's so pupolar..is it's because it's publicly available..and it's the easiest way to mess some-one's box without any coding that's why noob-kiddies use this trojan...
carlssin
QUOTE (OaKz @ Feb 9 2004, 02:41 AM)
another reason why it's so pupolar..is it's because it's publicly available..and it's the easiest way to mess some-one's box without any coding  that's why noob-kiddies use this trojan...



Right. You can find it just about everywhere. I was a suprised to find out that it is written in VB. I'm hoping to start writing my own this summer with a friend, and it won't be in VB.
TECHgenius
Sub7 is popular because it was one of the first + it's quite advanced.
[Sunny]
QUOTE
ok is the best software or programs to hide the trojan when send over to someone else if he/she have a AV software?? UPX is detectable..so what??


Just google after alternative packing methods . I won't say my packet tool cause i don't want that tomorrow every damn antivir software scanner find my little rootkits and trojans biggrin.gif
Nova
I didnt like sub seven, yeh its got some great features but half of em i wouldnt use on a normal hack,

i use Shadow Remote Administrator, yep the same guyz that made shadow scanner, if well placed can have really good results, it got discontinued though

sub seven i had problems connecting to
goofy
When I was on a LAN party we find another noob program called NETBUS, and we used it to make fun whit my friend. But how popularly it's that program?
Reckless
Netbus is not a noob backdoor .. you'll know it when you find someone has installed it on ur comp tongue.gif

It made headlines when it was first out ..

weeee
OaKz
sub7 and netbus used to be "good stuff".
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