Can someone point me in the right direction to a tut/guide as to how to dual boot linux and windows xp, thanks...
Also i have a Alcatel Speed Touch 330 (Little Red Thing) USB Modem will i be able to get this to work in linux...
Thanks
KuerbY
May 26 2005, 06:00 PM
grub.conf
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# Which listing to boot as default. 0 is the first, 1 the second etc. default 0 # How many seconds to wait before the default listing is booted. timeout 30 # Nice, fat splash-image to spice things up # Comment out if you don't have a graphics card installed splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
title=Gentoo Linux 2.6.11-r3 # Partition where the kernel image (or operating system) is located root (hd0,0) kernel /kernel-2.6.11-gentoo-r3 root=/dev/hda3
# The next four lines are only if you dualboot with a Windows system. # In this case, Windows is hosted on /dev/hda6. title=Windows XP rootnoverify (hd0,5) makeactive chainloader +1
lilo.conf
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boot=/dev/hda # Install LILO in the MBR prompt # Give the user the chance to select another section timeout=50 # Wait 5 (five) seconds before booting the default section default=gentoo # When the timeout has passed, boot the "gentoo" section
# For non-genkernel users image=/boot/kernel-2.6.11-gentoo-r3 label=gentoo # Name we give to this section read-only # Start with a read-only root. Do not alter! root=/dev/hda3 # Location of the root filesystem
and i would suggest you boot floppy or cd because there are two issues: - if you have multiple drives and each system on another, then disconnecting linux one will make your pc unable to boot - also you can delete linux with ease and there will be no trash in mbr
i haven't heard if it's possibile to delete lilo or grub, you can only overwrite it
greetz
BuzzDee
May 27 2005, 03:52 AM
i'd say: use vmware
belgther
May 27 2005, 04:15 AM
@ShadowRun: you are right, but after you delete linux, you can still recover your computer without reinstalling windows. All you have to do is to boot from XP setup CD, use recovery console, and fix boot sectors with FIXBOOT and FIXMBR. Then everything runs fine. @BuzzDee: Vmware or Virtual PC are good alternatives, but when aiming to do something else, Vmware can be insufficient to satisfy the user with its speed and other issues. I had this when trying to play DOS games both with Vmware and Virtual PC, they were not running correctly and well, even though I had Pentium III 800 and 128 MB RAM, which is much more than enough to run the games correctly and fluently.
Partizaan
May 27 2005, 12:49 PM
Install first windows. Then install linux. In the setup it wil autodetect the xp on your box and grub wil auto deal with it. Afterwards u can edit grub.conf as Kuerby said.
Stephen79
May 27 2005, 05:56 PM
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had this when trying to play DOS games both with Vmware and Virtual PC, they were not running correctly and well, even though I had Pentium III 800 and 128 MB RAM, which is much more than enough to run the games correctly and fluently.
virtual installs are dependent on memery, much more so than on cpu power, so 128mb is very low.
silos
May 28 2005, 04:06 AM
l'd recommend using KNOPPIX which will install from CD and not on your hardrive.
The Alcatel is a pain to get running under Linux. l'm not sure about the one you have [have they included the drivers 'cos linux always seems to have a problem recognising drivers, and configuring them is a real pain?]. Best bet is to get an Ethernet Modem that doesn't need drivers.This is the secret to running linux i think.
tibbar
May 28 2005, 05:42 AM
if you make the mistake of doing a repair on your windows partition, you find the mbr gets messed up and your linux loaded is destroyed...
any tips on the best way to recover in this situation - i.e. how to restore the linux loader?
kuki
May 28 2005, 05:48 AM
Looks like this :
when 1st installing windows 2nd linux = all ok lilo/grub automatic find another OS
but when you will install linux and then windows you can spot some problems, cause micro$oft's shit overwrites your MBR and your lilo/grub are annihilated then you need to run Ur *nix from floppy or bootCD and install proper boot loader ;} it's nice explained on dozens of webs so i'll skip it ;P there is a few other possibilites to overcome this problem but one i wrote is good and enough :}
2. hardware ;P modems are most shitty devices to set 'em up under linux ;P but i would bet that on some BSD it would run smoothly i dont remember but afik netBSD is most compatible distro ;P
i hope i helped a bit greetz ;P
p.s
CODE
http://www.xs4all.nl/~golverd/tuxpage.html and http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialRecoveryAndBootDisk.html
good article and i like language used in it
p.p.s you can seek you way by mr G
belgther
May 28 2005, 10:09 AM
QUOTE(tibbar @ May 28 2005, 06:42 AM)
if you make the mistake of doing a repair on your windows partition, you find the mbr gets messed up and your linux loaded is destroyed...
any tips on the best way to recover in this situation - i.e. how to restore the linux loader?
I am not a linux specialist, but the lilo command does it well, as far as I know.
kuki
May 28 2005, 12:45 PM
QUOTE(belgther @ May 28 2005, 10:09 AM)
QUOTE(tibbar @ May 28 2005, 06:42 AM)
if you make the mistake of doing a repair on your windows partition, you find the mbr gets messed up and your linux loaded is destroyed...
any tips on the best way to recover in this situation - i.e. how to restore the linux loader?
I am not a linux specialist, but the lilo command does it well, as far as I know.
how will you use lilo command when the whole deal is that we are trying to recover lilo
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ninar12
May 28 2005, 01:24 PM
edit the bios putting in the linux cd
then u can mostly start the os again
only have probs with linux and my raid controller next lappy i ll setup linux again
belgther
May 28 2005, 01:40 PM
QUOTE(kuki5 @ May 28 2005, 01:45 PM)
how will you use lilo command when the whole deal is that we are trying to recover lilo
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By booting the distribution by a boot disk or CD.
kuki
May 29 2005, 06:23 AM
QUOTE(belgther @ May 28 2005, 01:40 PM)
QUOTE(kuki5 @ May 28 2005, 01:45 PM)
how will you use lilo command when the whole deal is that we are trying to recover lilo
I managed to get SimplyMepis Dual booting alongside windows xp ive tryed getting the modem to work from the guides on the internet but they just dont explain enough for me to understand it, would be great if someone could explain it in a simple manner lol
bonarez
May 30 2005, 09:56 AM
it has been said before, getting an usb-modem working can be a bit tricky, so can't promise results. the installation of pppd is not documented on that howto so I'll take a guess: looked at mepis site, is based on debian, so you should have a working apt.. insert the install cd then execute command apt-get install pppd from a shell.
Most of the time installing linux after XP and using the bootloader that comes with linux is enough for a dual boot sys. But i have had trouble and still didn't come to a solution when installing in sata discs.
Anyone with same problem or is it just my noobish stupidity!?
bonarez
Jun 3 2005, 02:44 AM
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only have probs with linux and my raid controller
like said, raid controllers are a pain when dealing with dualboots, and your sata is bound to be a raid controller (onboard)
personaly, I quit doing dualboots. just buy a router and a (cheap) pc for running linux and you will never look back again..
dw-chow
Jun 4 2005, 06:25 AM
very interesting, there's also the option of using a floppy diskette to boot into a linux configuration if you prefer windows as your default and nix isn't installed on a MBR. there's also 3rd party boot loaders such as system command that will "detect" partitions which include the ext3 format.
cduke250
Jun 4 2005, 03:01 PM
You can install windows 1st, then use knoppix to resize the ntfs partition. Then you can repartition and have Linux on the same hard drive.
The best way is to use 2 separate hard drives. (but you can use the same swap on both)
The best way to boot is either grub via floppy, or what I like to do is use a grub bootable CD with a custom menu.lst. You don't know how many times I've used the bootable CD and went into the commandline mode.
I wrote a HOWTO about advanced boot ideas involving grub and ranish partition manager. Its HERE
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next lappy i ll setup linux again
